I have just about recovered from my illness (it’s been a bad week) but the good news is that the pterosaur volume is now avilable to be ordered. Sorry, but as advertised it will have to be by post or by e-mail (no online ordering) and payment will have to be by cheque or postal order (direct transfer may be possible).
The full list of the various papers, page numbers etc. is now below, and the details below of whom to contact to order (please note these will not be shipped until the end of Jan at the earliest, they are still being printed) are here.
Andreas Trenkle
Jörg-Tömlinger-Str. 2
D-82152 Planegg
Germany
Fax +49-89-89329763 (inside Germany: 089-89329763)
andreasATtrenkle-buch.de
The cost is a staggeringly low 29 Euro plus postage (which obviously varies depending on where you are located) for all 264, A4 pages of pterosaur excitment. As I have mentioned before please DO advertise this volume where you can (can soemone stick this on the DML and Vert Pal list for me?). The BSPG is a small museum that will take a hit on this volume and the more copies we sell, the less moeny they will lose, and indeed the more people will get to read this research. Even if you do not need it directly, please request your library or research group pick up a copy, they will only be available for a limited time.
Flugsaurier: Pterosaur papers in honour of Peter Wellnhofer. 2008. Hone, D.W.E., and Buffetaut, E. (eds). Zitteliana B, 28. 264pp.
Wellnhofer, P. A short history of pterosaur research. p7-19.
Padian, K. Were pterosaur ancestors bipedal or quadrupedal?: Morphometric, functional and phylogenetic considerations. p21-33.
Hone, DW.E., & Benton, M.J. Contrasting supertrees and total-evidence methods: pterosaur origins. p35-60.
Barrett, P.M., Butler, R.J., Edwards, N.P., & Milner, A.R. Pterosaur distribution in time and space: an atlas. p61-107.
Steel, L. The palaeohistology of pterosaur bone: an overview. p109-125.
Bennett, S.C. Morphological evolution of the wing of pterosaurs: mycology and function. p127-141.
Witton, M.P. A new approach to determining pterosaur body mass and its implications for pterosaur flight. p143-159.
Habib, M.B. Comparative evidence for quadrupedal launch in pterosaurs. p161-168.
Elgin, R.E., Grau, C.A., Palmer, C., Hone, D.W.E., Greenwell, D., & Benton, M.J. Aerodynamic characters of the
cranial crest in Pteranodon. p169-176.
Martill, D.M., & Witton, M.P. Catastrophic failure in a pterosaur skull from the Cretaceous Santana Formation of Brazil.
p177-185.
Lockley, M., Harris, J.D., & Mitchell, L. A global overview of pterosaur ichnology: tracksite distribution in space and
time. p187-198.
Unwin, D.M., & D.C. Deeming. Pterosaur eggshell structure and its implications for pterosaur reproductive biology. p199-207.
Martill, D.M., Witton, M.P., & Gale, A. Possible azhdarchoid remains from the Coniacian (Late Cretaceous) of England. p209-218.
Rodrigues, T., & Kellner, A.W.A. Review of the pterodactyloid pterosaur Coloborhynchus. p210-228.
Lu, J., Xu, L., & Ji, Q. Restudy of Liaoxipterus (Istiodactylidae: Pterosauria) with comments on the Chinese istiodactylid pterosaurs. p229-241.
Martill, D.M. First pterosaur remains from Exu Formation (Cretaceous) from the Araripe Basin, Brazil. p243-248.
Buffetaut, E. Late Cretaceous pterosaurs from France: a review. p249-255.
Great! Do you think that it will be distributed to all who have subscription to Zitteliana or is this special volume only available as separate order?
My understanding is that any and all subscibers to Zitteliana will indeed get a copy. That’s a bout 400 institutions and I think another 150 or so private people, so as you can see this is not a wide distribution, and again I hope will give soem incentive for people to buy it who one day might want it – it won’t necessarily be easy to get!
I…um…what’s 29 Euro in dollars?
its about 40 something Canadian so a little less American.
what do you mean by direct transfer? Like can I log into my online banking and create a new payee? I hate these antiquated methods of commerce, seriously how did people function before they created the Internet?
A lot of banking is done via the internet in Germany so it’s quite possible to do it that way, or via getting your bank to do a direct transfer if you have the coprrect details of Herr Trenkle. However this is all I have been able to get out of Munich so I’m just passing on what I have with a best guess, I suggest you contact him about the details.
I hate to whine, but I am going to anyway: this is just plain stupid. Here we have a museum worried about losing money on this volume, and yet they will not take the VERY SIMPLE STEPS involved in setting themselves up to accept payment using PayPal — which would take, what, ten minutes? If they’d done that, I’d already have bought my copy instead of spending time on posting this; whether I ever get around to making the necessary inquiries on how to arrange payment in German funds and delivery to England, I couldn’t say — probably not. And I will not be alone in this.
Come ON, BSPG. Sort it out.
I know Mike. The problem lies with the fact the BSPG are not actually selling the volume themselves, they contract out the printing and distribution to the printers and it is they who can’t handle anyhing but simple transactions becuase they are a tiny old fashioned company. It is stupid and ridiculous and tied up with the obscure rules and contracts of Bavaria, but there’s not much I can do about it. We did specifically ask them to set up an internet account and / or the option to take credit cards and they jsut refused. To be honest it’s not nor mally a problem simply becuase so few people *buy* Zitteliana, and most of them are Germans in Munich so it’s hardly an issue.
My biggest worry is how to send an American check to Germany and make the amount correct. :-(
Then the museum should set itself up as a purchasing agent — accepting PalPal orders with a suitable small markup, and dispatching books — which no doubt it holds in stock, and if not then it should.
Sorry, there is just no excuse for this royal screw-up.
I’m not sure its a ‘screw up’ Mike, so much as ‘policy’. This is Bavaria and things are done differently, and often as if it’s the 19th Century as a matter of choice, not indifference.
SOrry, Dave, I just don’t buy it. OK, maybe Bavarian laws mean that the museum has to use a local printer that’s stuck in the 17th century and has only just discovered movable type, but how does that prevent them from buying a batch of pterosaur volumes at cost and eBaying them all as Buy-It-Nows?
Because the company desires to receive the money in direct for its product, which is IT’S product, not the museum’s. As such, the company must hold the contract, so that it can sell the volume on itself, as it was asked to print it by someone else. It was, after all, the printers that sell the books in the old days, rather than some storehouse. Once the books have run and collectors gain possession of them, then you can start buying them on eBay, but this antiquated system has had no need until now, I guess, to worry about international demand and the infancy (relative to the original system) of international markets.
I just want the volume, but will not be able to fork the cash for it any time soon.
German academic publishers seem to be particularly reticent about the effective use of the internet to sell their product. For example, Schweizerbart’s website is horribly antiquated – its almost impossible to directly order a publication from them, and very few of their journals are available electronically. Its just very surprising given that Germany seems to be up-to-date with technology, etc.
Has anyone tried contacting Andreas Trenkle about ordering details yet? I sent him an email Monday I think it was, haven’t heard back yet. Was wondering if anyone else has?
I contacted him about it last week, and he quickly set up a mail order account for me. I’ll be wiring my moolah this weekend or early next week.
Zach, how did you contact him by email?
Like this:
andreas@trenkle-buch.de
Nice guy.
lol oops, that was a poorly formed sentence on my part. Thats the address I used as well. Hmm, well I guess Ill just wait a bit longer then.
Jaime, I still don’t get it. Once someone — anyone — has bought a book, it’s their to do with as they please, including selling on: that’s the first sale doctrine (which, OK, is a USA-specific codification, but the principle is universal). If an individual can do this, then the museum can do it, and it doesn’t need the dumb publisher’s permission. I bet you the museum sells the pterosaur volume in its gift shop.
Sorry, neither museum nor printer _deserves_ to sell any copies. Which is a shame for all the scientists who poured they work into the volume. The rest of us (i.e. not pterosaur specialists) will just wait until the PDFs circuate.
One thing Mike, the museum does not have a gift shop. The reason for this is that any money the museum takes in from such activities would go to te central pool of all Bavarian institute admin and very little of it would ever get back. Zitteliana is not widely available for sale, and not from the museum and at best you can buy postcards from them.
A little thread necromancy here, but I thought that everyone might like to know that there are a couple electronic methods of payment available if you have online banking. Depending on your location, there is a USD and a Euro account available. First time setting up an over seas transfer and it took me less than five minuets.
Those of you who already ordered it, has anyone received their copy yet?
That’s great to know, thanks Chris.
WHile going through a different route the copies going out to authors and libraries only turned up in various places over the last couple of weeks so of course plenty of others are still liekly to be in the post.
I have written to Herr Trenkle in an attempt to buy the “Flugsaurier” issue of Zitteliana, but had no response. I appologise for troubling you, but wonder if you have any more up to date information about where I might obtain this important volume.